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Poster: BryanE Date: Jul 29, 2007 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: robthewordsmith

Just curious-

Weir referred to The Grateful Dead as a band of "misfits playing music for misfits." How much of a misfit are you in your native land? I ask specifically about the prevalence of Dead Heads in Scotland. Over here, we're not exactly rare, but we've always been limited in number, too. Up in the northern UK, would you be seen as among the oddest of odd ducks because of your appreciation for The Grateful Dead?

And a follow-up: how often were you able to see the Dead in your neck of the woods?

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

I'm in cognito, and I know one other deadhead in my immediate community who is also in cognito. If anyone asks, I'm happy to enthuse about the incredible music made by the boys, but most people who know me in passing wouldn't think to.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:46pm
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Cognito - a great place to bring up your kids.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:48pm
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is that with driving distance of centerville?

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Centerville Mass. is pretty nice if that's where your talkin about.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Not familiar with centreville mass. Where is that in realtion to worcester?

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Centerville Mass. is pretty nice if that's where your talkin about.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Is that Centerville, Utah, Ohio, Indiana, South Dakota, Texas... Do you all have a damn Centerville? :-)

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Probably more Springfields. Which is why there was actually a measurable playing field among the cities vying for the distinction of hosting the premiere of The Simpsons Movie.

There are a lot of Mt. Vernons and Salems, too. Both of them in Illinois are the next town over from where I sit, depending on which direction you travel.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

I just remembered: Centreville, Illinois, is not that far away, either. Over by St. Louis. More than its share of titty bars and hookers. Probably not the best place to raise your kids up. Significantly fewer than 200 motels.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

this was the closest exit ramp I could find...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIcDIG-8hgw

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Poster: nagdot Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:11pm
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dont forget michigan

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:19pm
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'Michigan seems like a dream to me now...'

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Or, if you're looking for a beer:

http://yp.recordcourier.com/The+Inn+Cognito.327667.17977130.home.html

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:24pm
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Nice one, Lou!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 1:00pm
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Hey Bryan – I’m a misfit wherever I go. I’ve kind of got used to it these past fifty years.

Anyway, in Scotland there was me and a couple of buddies who were into the Dead. We travelled down to London aged 17 to see the band for the first time in 1974 at Alexandra Palace (and Crosby Stills Nash and Young; Joni Mitchell and The Band later that same week at Wembley). Three years after that I moved to London and saw the Dead when they played at the Rainbow Theater in the 80s and for the last time at Wembley Halloween 1990 – a half dozen or so times all told. I had no access to live recordings (any bootlegs that appeared were way overpriced – free exchange? You got to be kidding me) and got my whole Dead fix from the commercial releases. When Dick’s Picks started appearing I was in seventh heaven because, damnit, I could listen to a whole Grateful Dead show from start to finish.

When I discovered this place and that there were people here, real people that I could talk to, who shared my love, I was like a dog with two tails. So, for all hucker thinks I’m a lightweight who contributes, in his words ‘jack shit’ – I like it here, I like many of the people here, and I’ll sure as hell speak out when I think things are going wrong because this place means something to me.

I hope that answers your question, Bryan.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2007 1:19pm
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Knerd, Seeing all those Europe shows that we working class heads couldn't afford going to merits the Knerd of the day award. Lucky bastard

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:18pm
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Do you expect a serious response to that? No. Didn't think so. Good job too.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jul 29, 2007 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Yeah, rob, that fills me in. Thanks. Too bad for all of the normal people in the world that they missed out on all the fun we had.

My wife has had a friend in Scotland for years. When Jerry's demise was THE headline story, he called over here to ask her just who was this guy that died and was all over the news. I'd like to think that, Scottish or not, he was in the overwhelmingly minority.

Another question (or series of questions)-what was it specifically that made you aware of the Dead? You mention the studio releases. Is there a moment you recall when you were listening to something in particular that made you say, "This stuff works for me. I want to hear more"? Was it one of your buddies who brought in one of the albums and said, "You gotta listen to this!"? Or did something else make you independently curious about them?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 4:24pm
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Bryan – I can’t recall the exact moment I got shown the light but I think getting hold of the Last Days of the Fillmore boxset may have been pivotal. Grateful Dead, NRPS, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Hot Tuna, It’s A Beautiful Day… something told me I was going to spend a lot of time with this music. It all kind of snowballed from there – practically anything that might loosely be termed ‘west coast’ music was just fine by me. Places I only ever read about like the Fillmores, east and west, Winterland, and the Avalon Ballroom were as legendary as Xanadu or El Dorado to a young guy in Scotland. I’d probably have sold my grandmother for a chance to see the Dead at Winterland.

But please don’t think I was entirely wedded from afar to the west coast dream. I was also in my teenage years very much into bands like Yes, ELP and Deep Purple and later really got into the ‘pub rock’ scene here in the late seventies that gave rise to guys like Ian Dury, Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, Dave Edmunds and Graham Parker. And my love for the Clash is undiminished.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 29, 2007 5:25pm
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But finding a buyer was the tough job (you're grandma).

I hate to tell you I saw them there (Winterland) many times...what's tragic is that I longed to see them in the 60s at the Avalon.

Can't win for loosing. Always greener...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 5:31pm
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Hey WT - I think I'd have liked being there with you. Give me a Winterland date to stream and I'll enjoy it vicariously from afar in time and space.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 29, 2007 5:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

My favorite was the 6-17-75 show (I think I have the day right, but only June show of the year...you can hear us yelling in the lulls between songs). Otherwise, try the October, 78 shows (20 & 22 I believe).

Thanks for letting me know we are okay; I really enjoy reading your stuff, and wish to God there weren't the other infringements that have rightfully gotten a bit under your skin.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 29, 2007 5:42pm
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Will Tell we are very much ok - I consider you to be beyond doubt one of the good guys. I wish I enjoyed your equanimity.

I'll give your shows a spin tomorrow - it's nearly 2 am here and I guess I really ought to go to bed.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 29, 2007 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Whatever happens, just keep on posting...

Since I 'know' and like both of you, it troubles me to see you and CLIFF at odds, and for the life of me, I can't figure it out...I suppose I cut Rich and CLIFF a wee bit of slack since for whatever reason, they suffered moreso from 2 than perhaps any others here...still, it is too bad that the reaction to 2 has been as bad as the original problem.

Nonetheless, today I am posting as much as possible in the spirit of taking it easy and in some small way, regaining the forum for those of us, like you, that still see value in it...

Hang in there my friend--regulars can have their differences and still both find some good here, I hope.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2007 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

Hey What happened I was gone for a couple days I thought we were rid of the 2 thing finally.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

I was gone for more or less a month, but checking in the past week on and off and it appears 2 surfaced, generated paranoia, and new posters or imposter (2) were put to flight...depends on your view: paranoia or appropriate police action.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2007 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: robthewordsmith

All I can say is ignorance is bliss in this case but I really thought our reverse psychology thing would do the trick. Maybe we just didn't do it for long enough. I'll give it another try: Official Duprees Diamond News Flash: the dead suck for playing 5-8-77 and not telling me on my birthday and for 2-14-69 for getting my mom pregnant with that guy and for 5-26-74 for playing too long and especially those 76 repetition-reprises of songs that they did. There that should do it. Nothing more for the smart guy to comment on now is there. Ok I'm off to bed goodnight Will and all.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 29, 2007 12:51pm
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Well my bud after having a few nice frothy brews with a couple Scotsmen and Irish and German as well as a good ol American dead head friend over here in Asia complete with a nice jam of Asian Jazz I must say It's looking pretty good from over here but what can I say except that I just got 65 gigs of music dumped on me today and I'm binging on great music, what more is there? You don't really have to answer that because if there is anything better it may be lethal.

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